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johnsonator111
07-30-07,
well the nanos strike again. ive been playing a lot of high level players that have good records, 150-40 or so. ive noticed a trend, everyone cheeses. i played a guy named latinthing and i was crushin him, he was throwin all his glitches at me, then he tried to dc me but he couldnt get it to work and evenutally conceded, he was 90-30. i played a few others that all they do is goaline toss or off tackle, then they nano the hell outta me, i always shut their p*** and run game down tho til i think theyre playing straight then they do a goaline run. i dont mind the nanos so much bc then i just come out 5 wide, but is this lame goalline run going to improve next year, along with the dc glitches removed? my 2nd question is are they going to bring the defensive playmaker back on 08? and my 3rd, if you go to a madden tournament such as the madden bowl/challenge, do they allow you to use nanos and other cheesy moves? sorry so long im just kinda blowin off some steam

Okc Boy$
07-30-07,
i think their bringing back defensive playmaker

XxxDaMaddenGod
07-30-07,
nanos are allowed...goaline is banned

prince
07-30-07,
There are a million of these threads, search the damn forum!

Trivium21
07-31-07,
one thing ive noticed is on that show on espn for madden (forgot the name) i saw the winner of the second season run a **** load of goalline. but only racked up about 4 yards a carry. these leads me to belive that that show is rigged and it takes no skill to be in it. No way games are that low of scoring. Ie. 7-3 or 14-10. NO WAY.

Omen
08-01-07,
one thing ive noticed is on that show on espn for madden (forgot the name) i saw the winner of the second season run a **** load of goalline. but only racked up about 4 yards a carry. these leads me to belive that that show is rigged and it takes no skill to be in it. No way games are that low of scoring. Ie. 7-3 or 14-10. NO WAY.

they play 2 min quarters. running goalline all game = eating up clock = less scoring

prince
08-01-07,
da secret is one of the best madden players evver , wtf are oyu talkin about , the only bad people were season1 packwolf and season 2 aussie , the rest are well known , get your facts straight

Trivium21
08-01-07,
well if thats the case it still should be scored higher if they run gl all game. but to be on that show takes no skill. so jrhoads (if he's on it) will get told what to do and he wont be able to do his line stunts.

Trivium21
08-01-07,
dude i bet you you havnt even heard of da secret before madden nation season 2. so stfu

AJ1224
08-01-07,
da secret is one of the best madden players evver , wtf are oyu talkin about , the only bad people were season1 packwolf and season 2 aussie , the rest are well known , get your facts straight


LOL....that aussie was so damn horrible it was just sad.

prince
08-01-07,
dude i bet you you havnt even heard of da secret before madden nation season 2. so stfu


r u talkin 2 meakes the final 32 in hawaii every year and went to the finals this year

SmokeCapone
08-01-07,
If yall call yall selves ballers and love the game so much then why cant most of you run with your team spcific playbooks. I never understand why everyone likes changing offensive playbook online or in tourney's. If your that good you should be able to you use your teams playbook, it doesnt make sense to me cuz you dont see teams in the league go into there next week talking about "hey guys, we're gonna use another teams playbook every week" and madden makes it simple. I hate seeing guys put LBs on the defensive line and roll over linemen as if they were kids. I ball with the niners and can tear a hole in your *** with there playbook both O and D. You not a ral baller to me unless your team specific and can consistantly win that way.

DEVODYNAMITE 11
08-01-07,
If yall call yall selves ballers and love the game so much then why cant most of you run with your team spcific playbooks. I never understand why everyone likes changing offensive playbook online or in tourney's. If your that good you should be able to you use your teams playbook, it doesnt make sense to me cuz you dont see teams in the league go into there next week talking about "hey guys, we're gonna use another teams playbook every week" and madden makes it simple. I hate seeing guys put LBs on the defensive line and roll over linemen as if they were kids. I ball with the niners and can tear a hole in your *** with there playbook both O and D. You not a ral baller to me unless your team specific and can consistantly win that way.


how does using a playbook make u more or less loyal. You do realize that these arent the actualy playbooks that they use in real life dont you???
what you said was stupid and doesnt show how loyal you are to your team.

Gunnz
08-01-07,
If yall call yall selves ballers and love the game so much then why cant most of you run with your team spcific playbooks. I never understand why everyone likes changing offensive playbook online or in tourney's. If your that good you should be able to you use your teams playbook, it doesnt make sense to me cuz you dont see teams in the league go into there next week talking about "hey guys, we're gonna use another teams playbook every week" and madden makes it simple. I hate seeing guys put LBs on the defensive line and roll over linemen as if they were kids. I ball with the niners and can tear a hole in your *** with there playbook both O and D. You not a ral baller to me unless your team specific and can consistantly win that way.

ya those arent the real PBs...some other Pbs have better plays that fit ur team...:yes

Lord Piper
08-01-07,
Wow...i guess the release date being so close has got everyone's competitive juices going. Anyway, just to add my two cents...There WILL IN FACT be defensive playmaker in 08 and I also don't think that sticking to a teams playbook matters much, cuz remember you are not only a player in Madden, YOU ARE ALSO THE COACH/COORDINATOR...you should be able to pick plays that you like. Finally, and not to sound ignorant, but what are NANOS?????

SmokeCapone
08-01-07,
how does using a playbook make u more or less loyal. You do realize that these arent the actualy playbooks that they use in real life dont you???
what you said was stupid and doesnt show how loyal you are to your team.


Its like this regardless if they're real playbooks or not each team is assigned a diff playbook right? right!!!! Why use a playbook that is not specific to your owns team when its like putting someone on offense on the defensive side of the ball in a psoition they havent played since High school. Its just a funky mess to me and its my OPINION. And even they were ral PBs you would still use other teams PBs anyway. I played online since it debuted in 03 and I can say that everyone who WANTS TO WIN BY ANY MEANS USE DAMN NEAR THE EXACT SAME PB. Thats what makes using team specific ones more important cuz it throws your opponent off when everyone else out there plays almost the same way. Now you sound stupid and should put more thought into your responses maybe next time i should be more considered of you and lamens terms everything I write.

prince
08-01-07,
they let you cahnge playbooks so that its strategy to find which one works.

SmokeCapone
08-01-07,
if letting you is strategy then so be it, thats the best response i've done heard. you must play sim

xizsik2
08-01-07,
which playbook does run n gun go to? or west coast? or balance or pass balance or run balance or run heavy???

which teams get those books???? if your mad at certain playbooks then you need to get a new game...... every playbook is good for there own reason.... when i play online or anyone your job is to win thats it... without cheating.. just win.. if me using the 49ers which i use them alot... but i like to use oak pb or sea pb... even west coast n RnG.... i use to always use the eagles n the eagles pb jus cuz eagles pb is a good one too... but which pb u pick doesnt make you not sim...

roll2tide
08-01-07,
PBs are pretty irrelevant, imo. There are maybe 5 PBs in the game (07) that i would never use and thats only because they have so few formations or there is little variety in the plays. The rest are fine by me and i tend to switch them alot, sometimes game to game.

nanos are blitzes where the defense positions players in such a way that the OLine can never pick them up and 1 or 2 or more guys come right through untouched every play.

Lord Piper
08-02-07,
PBs are pretty irrelevant, imo. There are maybe 5 PBs in the game (07) that i would never use and thats only because they have so few formations or there is little variety in the plays. The rest are fine by me and i tend to switch them alot, sometimes game to game.

nanos are blitzes where the defense positions players in such a way that the OLine can never pick them up and 1 or 2 or more guys come right through untouched every play.

Thank you my man for that explanation....now, tell me how is this a clitch/cheese/cheat??? Don't they try to do this in real football all the time? Wouldn't you be able to counter it by coming out in split backs and hot routing the backs to stay and block? Am i missing something?

OBinKC
08-02-07,
if letting you is strategy then so be it, thats the best response i've done heard. you must play sim

Man, you're laughable at best. Your strategy is to use a team specific playbook, well other people's strategy is to find a playbook and a team that fit their style of play. How do you come on here with any dignity at all and tell people that what you're doing is the right way and everyone else is stupid? How many MC winners stuck with their team's playbook? Unless you've won every MC, you really can't tell everyone else in the Madden world that your way is the only way and everyone who doesn't do what you say is wrong. But at least you added some comedy to my day.

HalfAsleep
08-02-07,
I love it when people complain.

MikeMartzisGod
08-02-07,
I love it when people complain.

agreed:yes:yes:yes

SmokeCapone
08-03-07,
Man, you're laughable at best. Your strategy is to use a team specific playbook, well other people's strategy is to find a playbook and a team that fit their style of play. How do you come on here with any dignity at all and tell people that what you're doing is the right way and everyone else is stupid? How many MC winners stuck with their team's playbook? Unless you've won every MC, you really can't tell everyone else in the Madden world that your way is the only way and everyone who doesn't do what you say is wrong. But at least you added some comedy to my day.

DIGNITY!!!! Man how in the hell can you fix your fingers to say some crap like that when most of us spend $60 on a gm that gets ruined because of exploits as such in digging. When people go looking for that right PB most stumbled on to something that a majority of others follow. I bet you come out and run the same exact offensive scheme as most all cheesers and glitchers do. No one is really unpredicitable anymore because lame ****S like you wanna go for a joy ride off the scheme that tapped your *** in the first play. I do not have DEEP THREATS with the niners when I am up against such superior teams defensively. But you morons come out an the firs thing you can do is come out in a G/L formation or something similar to it. And you have the nerve to say I have no DIGNITY when I dont even run G/L in G/L situations because that **** gets on my nerves from all these assholes who have no skill. Have you been to an MC???

There;s no DIGNITY in competing at that level when 90% of the participants CHEAT OR CHEESE. Most travel a few hundred miles or so to get embarrased by such things that are allowed in a football game at a tourney. I bet I could mop the floor with you cuz your dignity is in someone elses strategy and up someone elses ***. Your the funny one here bye

BIN49LADEN
08-03-07,
there is nothing wrong with a nano blitz. and they are beatable if you are good...

gui font
08-03-07,
WTH is the goalline bug??? and nanos i dont understand anything

OBinKC
08-03-07,
DIGNITY!!!! Man how in the hell can you fix your fingers to say some crap like that when most of us spend $60 on a gm that gets ruined because of exploits as such in digging. When people go looking for that right PB most stumbled on to something that a majority of others follow. I bet you come out and run the same exact offensive scheme as most all cheesers and glitchers do. No one is really unpredicitable anymore because lame ****S like you wanna go for a joy ride off the scheme that tapped your *** in the first play. I do not have DEEP THREATS with the niners when I am up against such superior teams defensively. But you morons come out an the firs thing you can do is come out in a G/L formation or something similar to it. And you have the nerve to say I have no DIGNITY when I dont even run G/L in G/L situations because that **** gets on my nerves from all these assholes who have no skill. Have you been to an MC???

There;s no DIGNITY in competing at that level when 90% of the participants CHEAT OR CHEESE. Most travel a few hundred miles or so to get embarrased by such things that are allowed in a football game at a tourney. I bet I could mop the floor with you cuz your dignity is in someone elses strategy and up someone elses ***. Your the funny one here bye

The fact that you put words in my mouth further proves my point about you. When did I say that I don't use a team's specific playbook? When did I say that I used goal line as well as other copied cheese plays? I mentioned nothing of the sort regarding using what everyone else does. And my original question still stands about MC winners. Let's take Big Gene, for instance, who won at least one that I know of last year. He used Run Balanced. OMG, he didn't use his team's specific playbook!!! He is WRONG!!! Oh, wait a second, no he isn't. Because Young Jarvis used Philly with either Tenn's playbook or Washington's. Wait a second, your theory is being torn up completely.

My point, if you care to take it this time, was that you coming on here telling people that they are wrong for using a playbook other than their team's specific one, and saying so in quite the hot headed fashion at that, is laughable. The fact that you automatically accused people who pick other playbooks of being cheesers, and didn't even take into account that people have different strategies than their playbooks offer, debunks everything you say.

johnsonator111
08-03-07,
wow didnt think my post would cause so much arguing. my point was the goalline flat out isjust ridiculous if u have a great rb like ladaian or j lewis. ur guarenteed 4 or 5 yds every play. but this will be fixed in 08, or so they say. but the whole nano thing, well, theres a big debate over whats fair. fair is supposed to be what they do in the nfl. someone said dont they try to pressure the qb every play, and yes they do. but not every play will the mlb come thru the oline and sack u within 1-2 seconds. thats why i think its bs. but it doesnt really matter, because no mattter who u are, what u do, the game isnt realistic, and everyone cheeses or cheats in one way or another, so i guess all that matters is what goes on at tournaments, and how the refs there decide what is cheating and what isnt. as for the playbook thing, well the guy who said you should only us team specific is a moron, hes just mad cuz he probably loses every game. every playbook has its good and bad, and its awesome plays and counters to them, u just have to find them.

SmokeCapone
08-04-07,
:yeswow didnt think my post would cause so much arguing. my point was the goalline flat out isjust ridiculous if u have a great rb like ladaian or j lewis. ur guarenteed 4 or 5 yds every play. but this will be fixed in 08, or so they say. but the whole nano thing, well, theres a big debate over whats fair. fair is supposed to be what they do in the nfl. someone said dont they try to pressure the qb every play, and yes they do. but not every play will the mlb come thru the oline and sack u within 1-2 seconds. thats why i think its bs. but it doesnt really matter, because no mattter who u are, what u do, the game isnt realistic, and everyone cheeses or cheats in one way or another, so i guess all that matters is what goes on at tournaments, and how the refs there decide what is cheating and what isnt. as for the playbook thing, well the guy who said you should only us team specific is a moron, hes just mad cuz he probably loses every game. every playbook has its good and bad, and its awesome plays and counters to them, u just have to find them.


Damn Maddden as tooken away the basics knowledge of common sense from most of you guys on here. Any of you actually played football in real life beofre or still do?

I dont lose every game and I have a decnt record for someone that plays only with the niners 220-170 on the PS3 and I can tell you more than half those losses I took from Cheeser and cheaters who plays with teams rated way better than mine both on O & D but yet they feel they still need to pull these cheesy glitching tactics. And for you 2 who negatively responded to my replies bout all this can have someone else read it and comprehend it for you. There's no words going into no ones mouths. I said I went to a MD in Vegas a couple yrs back and it was ridicoulous how EA allows this game to be played in Tourneys the way it is and more than half if not almost all participants go to MCs and cheat cheese there asses off. I take my losses whether I got cheated or not and I learn from it and i know almost everyone does the exact same plays with the exact same playbook. I dont play madden online to exploit glitches I expoloit those holes in YOUR GAME. Madden is like the game of chess to me i like putting together a strategy to counter my opponent and when I get shutdown I find ways to avoid it the next time. If PBs didnt matter than why even have team specific playbooks when you can just have run'n'gun or west or east coast playbooks. Its that simple. Dont get offended by anything I say its just a response on a forum made for this but I gotta be all kinds of morons and **** of the like.

If any of you have the PS3 verison and feeling froggish than jump and holla at me I also have a mic if you like talking better than you can type maybe then you can understand WTF im saying

OBinKC
08-04-07,
:yes


Damn Maddden as tooken away the basics knowledge of common sense from most of you guys on here. Any of you actually played football in real life beofre or still do?

I dont lose every game and I have a decnt record for someone that plays only with the niners 220-170 on the PS3 and I can tell you more than half those losses I took from Cheeser and cheaters who plays with teams rated way better than mine both on O & D but yet they feel they still need to pull these cheesy glitching tactics. And for you 2 who negatively responded to my replies bout all this can have someone else read it and comprehend it for you. There's no words going into no ones mouths. I said I went to a MD in Vegas a couple yrs back and it was ridicoulous how EA allows this game to be played in Tourneys the way it is and more than half if not almost all participants go to MCs and cheat cheese there asses off. I take my losses whether I got cheated or not and I learn from it and i know almost everyone does the exact same plays with the exact same playbook. I dont play madden online to exploit glitches I expoloit those holes in YOUR GAME. Madden is like the game of chess to me i like putting together a strategy to counter my opponent and when I get shutdown I find ways to avoid it the next time. If PBs didnt matter than why even have team specific playbooks when you can just have run'n'gun or west or east coast playbooks. Its that simple. Dont get offended by anything I say its just a response on a forum made for this but I gotta be all kinds of morons and **** of the like.

If any of you have the PS3 verison and feeling froggish than jump and holla at me I also have a mic if you like talking better than you can type maybe then you can understand WTF im saying


And here we go again. You'll never understand, will you?

Again, you came on here demanding that people don't use other playbooks other than their team's specific one. You seem to only think people who do so are cheesing. No acknowledgement of the fact that people like to open their game up to a different strategy.

If you would have limited your argument to cheesing and copycat techniques, it would have been much more respectable. Even complaining about everybody using the same playbook holds merit. However, throwing in this theory blaming it on using any team's playbook other than your own ruins your argument and credibility. I'm not going to call you a loser and say you suck at Madden. I'm just telling you that the basis for your argument is flawed and needs to be reconsidered.

p.s. Why aren't there just three playbooks in Madden? Are you serious?

SmokeCapone
08-04-07,
let me get this str8 for you again. I never demanded it from you, I demanded it for tourney situations like the MCs and to those who are madden faithfuls who play the game for the love of its real life counter part the NFL. But since you working wit feelings why dont you put those feelings out on the field and come see what im talking about. If you have a PS3 me and my niners are waiting. PSN: SmokeCapone

P.S. Im thru talking to you bout this and derailing this thread with your personal issues

OBinKC
08-04-07,
P.S. Im thru talking to you bout this and derailing this thread with your personal issues

Why, because you lost the debate? You won't face the real issue that you came on here and ignorantly said that your way is the only way, and when people come on here and rebut what you say in the same abbrasive fashion as you did, you can't handle it with logic.

The sad thing is, you raise a good topic of debate by believing that any team's playbook can win at the highest level. But instead of doing so in a mature way, you come on here and call everybody idiots for not doing it that way. Call me stupid for wasting my time on you.

SmokeCapone
08-05-07,
Stupid!!:yes