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jcolesr1
09-23-07,
It's about time for Notre Dame fans( including me ) to start looking for a new coach. Don't get me wrong I like Coach Weis but I also liked Coach Willingham. And let their records speak for them. Willingham 10-3, 5-7, 6-5. Weis 9-3, 10-3, 0-5 etc... They will lose to Purdue, UCLA, B.C., USC, Air Force, and Stanford. They might beat Navy and Duke and that's a big MAYBE. So let's add up the total career wins for the two coach at Notre Dame. Coach Willingham 21-15. Coach Weis 21-17, again with a big MAYBE could be 19-19. Now if it go like I see it going Willingham will have a better record then Weis. With a better record Willingham was fired after three years. The same should happen to Charlie Weis, but you don't hear anyone calling for Weis head like they did Willingham. Don't get me wrong the rest of the season has to play out, but it's not looking good. If anyone has anything to say about this subject please let me know and we can discussion it.:thankyou

tbwinsbo6
09-23-07,
Sorry, Coach Weis is locked up for approx. 10 more years so odds they release him is improbable. They are currently rebuilding and next year will be a an improvement because of young recruits arriving. Even if they don't get better, they've haven't been great in a vast amount of time, eh?

wzup44
09-23-07,
this is in the wrong forum but,
charlie weis has job security, he isnt going anywhere. i think firing him will set notre dame back some unless they bring in someone like mack brown but he's not leaving texas :)

jcolesr1
09-23-07,
I heard there is a clause in his contract that will cover that ( don't know if that's true or not ). But I just want to know how many people feel what i'm saying.

GreenWithEnvy
09-23-07,
notre dame lost most of its decent players last year (brady quinn to be exact) they cant run because they dont have a good QB or passing threat that has any d cordinator scared to stack 8 in the box.. n now the inexperience is showing up on the field.. they'll be better in 2 years

yunggunz187
09-23-07,
exactly they will be back to Notre Dame football in two years, i live just right off campus and people love Charlie around here, there is no talent on this team at all, willingham had talent on his squad when he lost and his *** couldnt recruit, this senior class is willinghams last players on the Notre Dame roster, and the juniors were recruited by charlie when he was still with the patriots this explains why they are not the greatest, the last two classes that ND recruited are some of the greatest recruiting classes in the country, notre dame will be a contender in two years and will show huge improvement next year.... They have a good quarterback in clausen but hes still a boy(just turned 20) its tuff to throw the ball when u have a lineman in ur face two seconds after the snap... its only speculation but people are sayin by his senior year people wont be talkin about brady quinn but cryin that clausen is leaving

DEVODYNAMITE 11
09-24-07,
what are you talking about...ND is on the rise!!! They finally scored an Offensive TD w00t w00t. Thats a big sign of improvement, maybe now they'll play some decently close games, and maybe get lucky.

But hey, at least they scored now!!!

jcolesr1
09-24-07,
Charlie Weis didn't have talent the last two years? And did nothing with it, so he's don't the same tyrone willingham did. And Charlie had better talent. And youi say Clausen is just a little boy, Brady Quinn was just a little boy for Willingham.

wzup44
09-24-07,
what are you talking about...ND is on the rise!!! They finally scored an Offensive TD w00t w00t. Thats a big sign of improvement, maybe now they'll play some decently close games, and maybe get lucky.

But hey, at least they scored now!!!

We are talking about a D1 program that finally scored a td in like the third game of the season and ur saying they are on the rise? plz tell me ur playin
like everyone else i give notre dame two years or maybe next year to start really competing and winning games

yunggunz187
09-24-07,
Charlie Weis didn't have talent the last two years? And did nothing with it, so he's don't the same tyrone willingham did. And Charlie had better talent. And youi say Clausen is just a little boy, Brady Quinn was just a little boy for Willingham.

r u really 28 years old? charlie had plenty of talent the last two years hence the two decent seasons he had, clausen is young and isnt doin good, jus tlike brady wasnt the greatest when he was a freshman and sophmore, what point are u tryin to make?

jcolesr1
09-24-07,
What?

jcolesr1
09-24-07,
r u really 28 years old? charlie had plenty of talent the last two years hence the two decent seasons he had, clausen is young and isnt doin good, jus tlike brady wasnt the greatest when he was a freshman and sophmore, what point are u tryin to make?Yes, I am 28 and what are you talkin' about? When I said charlie weis didn't have talent the last two years I was being sarcastic. If you had read the whole post you would know that. And how old are u?

DEVODYNAMITE 11
09-24-07,
We are talking about a D1 program that finally scored a td in like the third game of the season and ur saying they are on the rise? plz tell me ur playin
like everyone else i give notre dame two years or maybe next year to start really competing and winning games

obviously i was rofl rofl

ND is nothing short of pathetic

wzup44
09-24-07,
^oh, i thot u were but i wasnt sure
Ive been thot ND sucks but now they are playing worse than i thot possible

Neversatisfied
09-25-07,
Notre Dame has horrible O and D lines. They will never amount to anything until they fix that glaring problem. Giving up 8-10 sacks per game? Thats just disgusting. I feel bad for Klausen. But what the hell, ND gave my team their first win of the season so I should thank that crappy team.

jcolesr1
09-25-07,
Notre Dame has horrible O and D lines. They will never amount to anything until they fix that glaring problem. Giving up 8-10 sacks per game? Thats just disgusting. I feel bad for Klausen. But what the hell, ND gave my team their first win of the season so I should thank that crappy team. I agree with you, their o-line and d-line's are terrible. The o-line just stinks period, and they shouldn't have switched to a 3-4 from 4-3 when they don't have the athletes for that defense. But don't get me wrong, I love Notre Dame. Any school from Indiana I pull for to the end. But once they get the o-line together who are they going to throw it to? Carlson will be gone and they haven't recruited any great or good wr's. The backs are very good but you can't throw to them all the time. So that's just another problem ND has to worried about, and hopefully they get it together by the start of next season cause this I is OVER.

Neversatisfied
09-25-07,
Notre Dame will bring in the athletes sooner or later from prestigue of the school alone. Lets just hope they are still alive after being thrown to the wolves as freshmen. What they are doing to Klausen isn't helping him. He is getting playing time, but he has no chance to succeed.

Agent Rat Daddy
09-25-07,
no notre dame sucks a fat one, UL Lafeyette has more TDs than Notre Dame, the duke blue devils have more than them, they suck... end of story

jcolesr1
09-26-07,
Notre Dame will bring in the athletes sooner or later from prestigue of the school alone. Lets just hope they are still alive after being thrown to the wolves as freshmen. What they are doing to Klausen isn't helping him. He is getting playing time, but he has no chance to succeed. I agree, their doing him like the Texans did David Carr.

R3D S0X FAN 07
09-26-07,
should go back 2 the pats and make mosss evn betta

wzup44
09-27-07,
I agree, their doing him like the Texans did David Carr.

I from houston so i like the texans and i can tell you that Carr made the worst decisions ever. Half of those sacks were his fault. Do you think the line all of a sudden got better now that shaub(sp?) is here? no, he just gets the ball out in time because he has that clock in his head

jcolesr1
10-02-07,
I from houston so i like the texans and i can tell you that Carr made the worst decisions ever. Half of those sacks were his fault. Do you think the line all of a sudden got better now that shaub(sp?) is here? no, he just gets the ball out in time because he has that clock in his headIf you think about it he started his rookie year. He didn't have time to develop that clock in his head cause the o-line has always been bad.

XlX X iz SiK
10-11-07,
its cuz willingham was a black coach thats y.....

no thats not y. weis had 2 good years and now he's having 1 bad year.... also willingham had only a 5 year deal i belive weis has a 10 year deal....

also you gotta consider weis might be more friendly to the college then ty was.... idk that answer really but its jus like say if ty was my marty being an *** half of the time with the GM ''marty san diegos old coach'' ok so marty was an *** half of the time and well even tho he was 14-2 he got fired...

but wat if wies jus sucks up to notre dame and plays the nice guy card... i think he'll get more chances then an asshole would...


10 year deal, nice guy, patriot coord. i think his situation in notre dame is alot better then ty willingham's was... the thread starter is jus trying to make it a racial issue... and i still dont understand... race in america is 10x better then what it was..... i honestly find it very ignorant that you put up your arguement that way. even tho you dint say it the overall presumption was there.

coltswinagain
10-12-07,
First of Charlie is a great coach... and they have been getting top 10 recruiting classes... i did not know it was the head coaches job to run the defense and the offense i thought they overlooked everyone. It just goes to show that Brady Quinn is an exceptional quarterback because without him they are nothing... its a rebuilding year for ND and they will be back in the mix next year with 8 wins. they may need some coaching help with coordinators but not with the head coach... remember they are one year removed from a bcs bowl game

jcolesr1
10-12-07,
its cuz willingham was a black coach thats y.....

no thats not y. weis had 2 good years and now he's having 1 bad year.... also willingham had only a 5 year deal i belive weis has a 10 year deal....

also you gotta consider weis might be more friendly to the college then ty was.... idk that answer really but its jus like say if ty was my marty being an *** half of the time with the GM ''marty san diegos old coach'' ok so marty was an *** half of the time and well even tho he was 14-2 he got fired...

but wat if wies jus sucks up to notre dame and plays the nice guy card... i think he'll get more chances then an asshole would...


10 year deal, nice guy, patriot coord. i think his situation in notre dame is alot better then ty willingham's was... the thread starter is jus trying to make it a racial issue... and i still dont understand... race in america is 10x better then what it was..... i honestly find it very ignorant that you put up your arguement that way. even tho you dint say it the overall presumption was there.I didn't say one thing about their race, so what the h--- are you talking about. I just wrote this to get different outlooks on the subject. So next time talk what you know about , please. Thank you ( it always has to be somebody stupid that thinks they know what everybody else is thinking, but has to use somebody else theorys to form their own opinions.)

chargers21
10-19-07,
charie weis is way overated Nd is 1-6 and they are playing Usc this weekend they are going to get killed and plus nd is no good anyway.