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[GreenWithEnvy]

would miami and vtech have been better off if they didnt go to the ACC? i swear they were like top 10 teams all the the time.. then they go to the ACC and just cant get it together..

[R3D S0X FAN 07]

what are you talking about. vt won the acc the last two years in a row

[GreenWithEnvy]

VT was unranked most of the season, they ended up ranked in the teens somewere they havent reached a BCS bowl in 3 year i believe (when they had marcus vick i think that was the last time). Anyone can win the ACC if NC State played like they played the last half they could have won. The ACC is not a power conference all the teams are so-so the only ones that look like they might be contenders in the next few years are UNC, FSU, BC, and maybe VT but they lose to ECU then beat UMD.. so i dont know what to think of em. I personally believe if both had stayed in the big east they would be better off. the only teams they would have to compete with would be WVU (not after pat white leaves) and cincinatti....

[Turtle54]

VT was unranked most of the season, they ended up ranked in the teens somewere they havent reached a BCS bowl in 3 year i believe (when they had marcus vick i think that was the last time). Anyone can win the ACC if NC State played like they played the last half they could have won. The ACC is not a power conference all the teams are so-so the only ones that look like they might be contenders in the next few years are UNC, FSU, BC, and maybe VT but they lose to ECU then beat UMD.. so i dont know what to think of em. I personally believe if both had stayed in the big east they would be better off. the only teams they would have to compete with would be WVU (not after pat white leaves) and cincinatti....

they were in a bcs last year after winning the acc.....

and BC was ranked top 10 for most of last year and 2. and beat vt in the reg season so thatcould have put a damper on there ranks. AND MAIMI HAD FALLEN OF THE MAP, but it slowly coming back after getting into the burnt tire bowl this year